Who is Red John?

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I pretty much like the Christopher Nolan´s movie Inception, with L. DiCaprio (Patrick Jane), Ken Watanabe (Kimball Cho), Ellen Page (Teresa Lisbon), Joseph Gordon-Levitt (Wayne Rigsby) and Marion Cotillard (Grace Van Pelt).
After reading the last 300 theories, I just came up with an Inception theory. There is no such thing as psychic, so Patrick Jane says. So, how is it possible all those mind readings? What if it is just a dream? A 5th grade stage where Patrick Jane is actually still locked up in a room at the mental institute, while Dr. Sophie Miller is still trying to crack up Jane´s mind.
48 hours to go and I am going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! muahahahaha... =)

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Last week I posted my guess/theory on who the serial killer might be. Since CBS messed up with the broadcast of episode 122 (extremely disrespectful to all fans and viewers) not all were able to see it. The theory has received an 84% plausibe against a 16% unlikely week vote. =)


As I said, I have watched in the past month all 122 episodes. This week I have rewatched all Red John related episodes including those where any of the final suspects show up. I have also taken into acount some of the theories I have read over here (A lot of thinking out there) while rewatching. =)


Two considerations: First, this is a fictional police procedural series. So the producers and writers can end up this case any way they like. Second, my guess is only based on the 122 episodes aired until now. I do not stop reading a book in the middle of it, to read others, to then guess how the first one ends. A great story must explain itself. =)


My guess: Partridge appears in the very first episode (S01E01) describing a copycat crime scene as Red John´s. Patrick calls him ghoul, irksome, fangoria fan. I will give you that, he is a special character in the show, but only that. He is killed (S06E01) and dies telling Lisbon "tyger-tyger" (No, lisbon does not belong to the clan, and no, either she has a tattoo) Patrick tells Lisbon his blood was used to draw a smile on her face (S06E02) Partridge is the perfect cover up member, as a forensic agent, for the crimes committed by the Law Enforcement Mafia.

McAllister loses infinite times rock paper scissors to Patrick (A very funny scene S01E02) Red John is so damn clever, so he said. McAllister is revealed to have the tattoo thus being a member of the Law Enforcement Mafia (S06E06).

Kirkland is killed in the Red Listed episode (S06E04) by Smith who we know now is part of the organization (S06E04 and S06E06) Besides in The Crimson Ticket (S05E01) Smith is played and heated up by Patrick making him confront Cho, even fighting him. So, Kirkland the creepy character reveals us many things before he dies. There is a Law Enforcement Mafia. He has a twin brother. His brother is a Red John´s accomplice (S05E18). Red John requested Kirkland´s twin brother devotion and sacrifice (S06E04). He is also after Red John.

Bertram, he who is many things to many people, is part of the Law Enforcement Mafia (S06E01 S06E02 S06E06) He also is a very special character of the show, but not Red John.


The weird man/woman (S06E02) feeding the pigeons. If it is suposed to be a clue this happens right after Patrick meets Bertram, McAllister and Smith (the great red dragon) so must be related to Red John. Not afraid of pigeons. He personally killed Partridge. He is close, very close, in desguise. =)

All this leaves me with a question when Bret Stiles promises he will return (S06E06): How does Michael Kirkland look today?


Theory #9511 • By Totally engaged =)
Posted 1 week ago

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I have watched in the past month all 122 episodes, which makes me a serious Mentaddict. =)
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-Spoiler for those who did not watched "Fire and Brimstone"-
At the end of the episode the 5 remaining suspects are separated into two groups. Those who have the tattoo(3) and those who do not(2).

Episode 123 is called "The Great Red Dragon" where the law enforcement mafia will be revealed. Then the three tattooed suspects will be discarted.

Episode 124, "Red John" one of the remaining two will be revealed as the serial killer.
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Ok, I believe that is the storyline of the series.

Bret Stiles will be revealed as Red John "the mind" and Michael Kirkland "the body".

My guess: The law enforcement mafia has used Red John as a cover up for commiting some crimes. The day Red John saves Patrick revealing the tyger tyger poem, he needs Jane´s help. Red John feeds him to help him uncover the mafia who are using his signature to commit some crimes. Being Brett Partridge the ideal member to cover up the leads. Red John kills him first as a call to the mafia "I know who you are and I am after you". Reason why they really need to find him first. They need to shut him up before Red John reveals not all the murders where commited by himself nor his accomplice. Red John loves Patrick as a father-son love. He killed his wife and daughter not to punish him but to convert him into a killer, which he already has by killing Red John´s bait.
Michael Kirkland "the body" is Red John, or if you want to see it in another way, he is Red John´s main assasin. He fits in size and description to most leads given. Bret Stiles "the mind" is Red John. He fits all the cleverness to be always ahead of Patrick.

Well, in two weeks we will see, until then... =)

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Theory #10219 • By Totally engaged =)
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#9511

Red John's Friends (S01 E11)

11 15 MAT

Jesus Testifies about John

14"And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. 15"He who has ears to hear, let him hear. 16"But to what shall I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the market places, who call out to the others.

So, he who has ears to hear, let him hear.

My Guess: Were the writers so perverse from the very beginning? Even Jesus testifies about John... hahaha... this is so wicked mad! =)

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I have watched in the past month all 122 episodes, which makes me a serious Mentaddict. =)

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-Spoiler for those who did not watched "Fire and Brimstone"-
At the end of the episode the 5 remaining suspects are separated into two groups. Those who have the tattoo(3) and those who do not(2).

Episode 123 is called "The Great Red Dragon" where the law enforcement mafia will be revealed. Then the three tattooed suspects will be discarted.

Episode 124, "Red John" one of the remaining two will be revealed as the serial killer.
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Ok, I believe that is the storyline of the series. Bret Stiles will be revealed as Red John "the mind" and Michael Kirkland "the body".

My guess: The law enforcement mafia has used Red John as a cover up for commiting crimes. The day Red John saves Patrick revealing the tyger tyger poem, he needs Jane´s help. Red John feeds him to help him uncover the mafia who are using his signature to commit crimes. Being Brett Partridge the ideal member to cover up the leads. Red John kills him first as a call to the mafia "I know who you are and I am after you". Reason why they really need to find him first. They need to shut him up before Red John reveals not all the murders where commited by himself nor his accomplice. Red John loves Patrick as a father-son love. He killed his wife and daughter not to punish him but to convert him into a killer, which he already has by killing Red John´s bait.
Michael Kirkland "the body" is Red John, or if you want to see it in another way, he is Red John´s main assasin. He fits in size and description to most leads given. Bret Stiles "the mind" is Red John. He fits all the cleverness to be always ahead of Patrick.

Well, in two week we will see, until then... =)

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